PTC Launches Creo 1.0

Posted by Featured, Opinions Monday, June 13th, 2011

Today PTC announced the availability of Creo 1.0 with press release declaring that a new era of Product Design had begun. According to the press release the first round of Creo apps are:

  • Creo Sketch –for simple “freehand” drawing of ideas and design concepts in 2D
  • Creo Layout – for capturing early concepts layouts in 2D that ultimately drive 3D design.
  • Creo Parametric – for powerful, 3D parametric modeling capabilities currently available in Creo Elements/Pro™ (formerly known as Pro/ENGINEER®). Extensions deliver a broader range of seamlessly integrated 3D CAD/CAID/CAM/CAE capabilities. New extensions offer more design flexibility and support for legacy data adoption.
  • Creo Direct – for fast, flexible 3D geometry creation and editing using a direct modeling approach. Provides unprecedented levels of interoperability with Creo Parametric for greater design flexibility
  • Creo Simulate – delivers capabilities an analyst needs for structural and thermal simulation
  • Creo Schematics – for creating 2D routed systems diagrams for piping and cabling designs.
  • Creo Illustrate –for 3D technical illustrations, providing capabilities to communicate complex service and parts information, training, work instructions, etc. to improve product usability and performance graphically in 3D.
  • Creo View ECAD – for viewing, interrogating, and marking up electronic geometry
  • Creo View MCAD – for viewing, interrogating, and marking up mechanical geometry

A majority of the Creo 1.0 apps are available in 10 languages.

PTC claims that Creo solves four unaddressed problems in the MCAD space: usability, interoperability, assembly management and technology lock-in. My hope is that this is not mere lip service because I have been in the data exchange business long enough to know that “propriety file formats” cannot be used in the same sentence as “interoperability” and “lock-in”.

So my very simple question is: Do the Creo 1.0 apps store their data in proprietary file formats or not?

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  • Geoff Hedges

    Deelip – as always you ask a great question about PTC’s Creo file format and how open it is.

    To help answer your question, there’s a couple of points I’d like to clarify. The first is that Creo uses a common data model to keep all the data used by each Creo app in synch, the second that a common data model is not the same as a common file format, and that yes, parts of the common data format will be open to customers, partners, etc.

    A lengthier response is available on creo.ptc.com, including three short videos where Mike Campbell, DVP of Creo Product Development at PTC, explains the common data model, how is used by each Creo app, and how open it is.

    Best Regards,
    Geoff Hedges,Program MarketingPTC

  • http://www.deelip.com Deelip Menezes

    With all due respect, “parts of the common data format will be open to customers, partners, etc.” is really not a solution to the interoperability problem in the MCAD space. The format is either completely open or not. Either by a published file format specification or a read/write SDK available to all for free (like Rhino 3DM) or at a price (like Acrobat PDF). It’s really as simple as that.

    To me it appears that with the common data model PTC is merely solving its internal interoperability problem between its own products, not the interoperability problem of the MCAD space, as is claimed in the press release.

  • d3print

    What is the prices for those Creo what ever apps? Wondering can I do drawings with Creo Direct?

  • Tomas Vargas

    PTC´s doors open ?     To all its installed base yes,  to everyone else no,  nor does NX, CATIA, SW, Autodesk..    You get good CAD,  behind closed doors.

  • Jim Manshee

    Geoff’s answer is the typical ‘non-answer’ that PR folks are trained to give everyday. Serving up platitudes like ‘its a great question’,  or talking about common data models when the question was clearly framed in terms of “open non-proprietary file format” exposes Geoff’s lame attempts at evading the inconvenient truth – PTC has always believed and will continue to believe in being ‘innovative’ as long as their data stays in locked boxes called encyrpted file formats. PTC Creo (or any other name) wont change a darn thing. 

    PTC  just dont have the chutzpah to play open & fair in the marketplace where their technology can match wits against their competitors. There, I said it.

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    This is a good news for everyone. I think that, it has many features. I am excited that, it is available in 10 languages. It is great to hear. It is informative.

  • Jeff Kunkler

    Geoff… 

    Please stop the evasion. We all get the blah, blah, blah about common data model between Creo apps.  It’s disingenuous to call interoperability between PTC apps a new high point when in fact it should merely be a given. It’s your software, it darn well better work together. (Kudos on making it work, but that should be PTC’s job to get it done, not spin it off as marketing blather – far too much has already been shotgunned about “interoperability” regarding Creo.)

    Here is an article you wrote (link: http://creo.ptc.com/2011/02/09/technology-lock-in-no-good-solutions-for-manufacturing/) talking about interoperability in a multicad environment… you refer to a third way with a link (http://www.engineerlive.com/Design-Engineer/Computer_Systems_Software/PTC_unveils_Creo_as_CAD_without_technology_lock-in/23153/) that ends up presenting Creo as the solution… REALLY?! where’s the multicad in that?

    As an engineer, I would like to have the choice of tools to use for any give job. That means I may or may not use your software depending on the value equation. (how much benefit I get from using it versus how much cost/pain and suffering) Don’t bullsh#t us about this: Please answer the question of how Creo interoperates with outside software, and why it’s better than the competition. That is all we are asking.

    Thanks for listening.

    Jeff

  • Jeff Kunkler

    Geoff… 

    Please stop the evasion. We all get the blah, blah, blah about common data model between Creo apps.  It’s disingenuous to call interoperability between PTC apps a new high point when in fact it should merely be a given. It’s your software, it darn well better work together. (Kudos on making it work, but that should be PTC’s job to get it done, not spin it off as marketing blather – far too much has already been shotgunned about “interoperability” regarding Creo.)

    Here is an article you wrote (link: http://creo.ptc.com/2011/02/09/technology-lock-in-no-good-solutions-for-manufacturing/) talking about interoperability in a multicad environment… you refer to a third way with a link (http://www.engineerlive.com/Design-Engineer/Computer_Systems_Software/PTC_unveils_Creo_as_CAD_without_technology_lock-in/23153/) that ends up presenting Creo as the solution… REALLY?! where’s the multicad in that?

    As an engineer, I would like to have the choice of tools to use for any give job. That means I may or may not use your software depending on the value equation. (how much benefit I get from using it versus how much cost/pain and suffering) Don’t bullsh#t us about this: Please answer the question of how Creo interoperates with outside software, and why it’s better than the competition. That is all we are asking.

    Thanks for listening.

    Jeff

  • Tomas Vargas

    Especially in complex surfacing,  never beat CAT in Aerospace,  even automotive styling.     Another one ?   Easy to use…     CAT, SW, Pro-E are all ” easy to use “,    Can their CEO´s use it ?    My industrial ENGINEERS mastering CAM could not make a box with a hole in SW,  let alone Pro-e or CATIA.    Customers took 2 years to start using Pro-E and one of my enginers had to model the complex machine to start with,  but I sold ” easy to use” 3D.

  • Tomas Vargas

    Could we have great answers please ?      It is a simple  yes-no question.

  • Cmon

    Deelip, we all now you’re busy these days,but we are all waiting for your review of direct editing tools in creo.

  • http://www.deelip.com Deelip Menezes

    As a PTC partner I have access to Creo 1.0, but not as media and hence cannot write about it. I have been asking the CAD media publicly on Twitter whether any of them have been given access to Creo 1.0. So far I haven’t got any reply.

  • Cadjunkie

    It is funny how creo is their answer to all engineers problems with fb CAD
    As far as i can see they copy a variety of direct modellers and have posted all of spaceclaim value props on their website only replacing spaceclaim with creo

    Kudos ptc on being innovative copying others haa

  • Cmon

    as far as i know,regular maintenance users can download creo ,use it and comment on it. is it different for media? are you media ;-)

  • http://www.deelip.com Deelip Menezes

    Indeed. PTC customers on maintenance can download and comment on it. I wish they did that instead of relying on people like us who hardly use the software to write about it. I concentrate on writing about the technology behind the product, not so much about the product, because that is my area of expertise.

    Yes, people consider me part of media – social media.

  • Ben Fentem

    Cadjunkie, as far as spaceclaim value props, all they’ve done is rip off CoCreate before it and market it better.

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